when retoric dies.

The Abominations Of Those Virtuous is one of my absolute favorites, but I've never seen you guys play it live.

Please put on some old songs on the list. I really missed them during the Deconstruction Tour in 2003. Then you guys only played pure and the rest was all from the ATE and TCT.
The power remains the same, Pure, In hope, Cavity.

Hmmm. There are so many good songs.
But I would be sad if you don´t play "My life in the knife trade" because it touches my heart and I have an own story...
I would like to hear some of the new songs. Maybe 8 of the 16. So you can test how the audience reacts and we get to know some new stuff.
The other 8:

My life in the knife trade, Rookie (sure;)), In hope, Another badge of courage, Cavity, Curtain Call, Holiday in cambodia, High wire escape artist, Bathory´s Sainthood, Last year´s nest...
Okay... so you should play 18 songs. ;)

I really thought about it and I personally think that this would be a PERFECT Playlist. :)

I love it when you open with ATE

1 ATE
2 highwire escape artist
3 homwtown report card
4 unspoken request
5 since the cd isnt out yet you should play about four or five new songs all together. I've seen a few bands do that and it's really cool. The kids know whats gonna be played for awhile and they can get used to the new songs.
9 pure
10 the force majuere
11 knife trade
13 release the dogs
14 bathorys sainthood
15 resection( if you play it in europe you might play it here and the states and a man can dream can't he? since this is most unlikely any song of In chrysalis works well too)
16 rookie

Release the dogs (I liked this the most as opening song like in 2003, of course ATE is also great)
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hometown report card
pure
cavity

after the eulogy
my life in the knife trade
pariah under glass
unspoken request

handful of redemption
last years nest
curtain call

4 new songs would be good I think, I'm very curious to the new material but I rather see many of them in the set after the record has been released
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Rookie (just the perfect final song)

And a cover song would be cool :) But I don't know which one

first of all, I want a 90 minute set.

I can't think enough to do an order, here are the songs though

after the eulogy
release the dogs
in hope
resection
management vs labor
timothy
still waiting for the punchline
last year's nest
with every intention
my life in the knife trade
cavity
requiem
empire
10 and counting
Nostalgia for Guillotines
So Long and Thanks for the Crutches
Cover Song -- Sunday Bloody Sunday (or maybe Paint it Black)which segues into Dear George
Rookie

Check out the Rakus Backlodge. It's funny.

if you want to cover refused play "coup d'etat" it's one of their best songs!

16 songs??? A Refused cover???!?!! WHY NOT HERE!? I need to goto Europe... Alright let's see what I can come up with.
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Dying On Principle
12 Step Hammer Program
New Song
Last Year's Nest
Knife Trade
Still Waiting for the Punchline
Release The Dogs
New Song
The Force Majeure
Pure
Cover - Maybe Rather Be Dead, Hook, Line, and Sinker, or Coup'Detat ooo or Deadly Rhythm
Cavity
Management vs Labor
Rookie
Vehicle

Encore
Live Wire :)

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I gess I'm bigest fan of yours....

1. ATE (for video-proof that this is an amazing start for a show)
2. Redemption (I don't wanna people yell "play redemption" all the time...)
3. Final communique
4. Looser of the year award (instead of always playing cavity)
5. Cringe
6. Bathorys Sainthood
7. 12 Step Hammer Program
8. Requiem
9. Vehicle
10. Knife Trade
11. Release the dogs
12. Resection (I have to hear this song live!)
13. Curtain Call or Pure
14. Rookie

Encore:
15. In hope
16a. Force Majure
16b. Cover song: Well, you wrote that you are a fan of SHAI HULUD (so am I), so why not cover "Hardly"? I think it fits great for bsf! (and I would help nathan sream "AND DO I GAIN")

I'll be at the gig in Paris. If you could play "Timothy" there, you'd really make my day. Thanks.

3 or 4 new songs for a 16 song set are probably a good deal.

And i second Rich's proposal for the cover song !! Especially Paint it Black.

Why does nobody want to hear 'Across 5 years'? That song gets no love, and it's great.

I've seen BSF about a dozen times or so, most recently last month at Sonar in Baltimore. Great set, lots of fun (even though the singer clocked me in the back of the head with a water bottle from about 3 feet away for no particular reason. I guess I'm just happy he didn't spit on me or even in my general direction this time). I'd say as a rule of thumb that you shouldn't play more than one song that hasn't been released. I think there were about 3 unreleased tracks in the Baltimore show. It was a small crowd and people were really in to it, but once you started breaking out unreleased stuff everyone just kind of stood still. So 1 unreleased track, and probably only 1 cover song (and it's never too soon to do a Refused song).

Today i just hope to get a ticket for the show in cologne (it is already sold out!). For me it is no matter what songs will be played, because all of them are great. But if i got a wish, i would prefer a set list with all these rarities, hard to find in germany, on it (just like the split LP with Jazz Man´s Needle). And of course some of the very new songs...

my set list would be:
01. after the eulogy
02. in the wilderness
03. vehicle
04. the tyranny of what everybody knows
05. the power remains the same
06. voiceover
07. feudal
08. in hope
09. fashion as a weapon
10. my life a knife trade
11. fade to black (metallica cover)
12. unspoken request
13. curtain call

For me these are the best of BSF songs. i do not thing that i would hear all those songs at the show, but i am sure that there are enough new songs to fill up the list.

1. Eviction Article
2. Last Year's Nest
3. Full Color Guilt
4. Bathory's Sainthood
5. Dying On Principle
6. Handful Of Redemption
7. Release The Dogs
8. Foundations To Burn
9. Management Vs. Labor
10. High Wire Escape Artist
11. White Wedding Dress
12. On In Five
13. Bonus Track 1
14. Walk Astray
15. Requiem
16. Final Communiqué
17. The Misery Index
18. (10) And Counting
19. Falling Out Theme
20. Empire
21. So Long... And Thanks For The Crutches
22. With Cold Eyes
23. Deja Coup
24. Social Register Fanclub
25. Nostalgic For Guillotines
26. A Far Cry
27. After The Eulogy
28. Rookie
29. Pariah Under Glass
30. When Rhetoric Dies
31. Still Waiting For The Punchline
32. The Abominations Of Those Virtuous
33. Our Time Honored Tradition Of Cannibalism
34. (Compassion) as Skull Fragments On The Wall
35. My Life In The Knife Trade
36. Across Five Years
37. Twelve Step Hammer Program
38. Unspoken Request
39. The Force Majeure

that would be the ideal day for me.

across 5 years is the best song of BSF.....

1. after the eulogy
2. the final communique
3. twelve step hammer program
4. release the dogs
5. in hope
6. the power remains the same
7. voiceover
8. my life in the knife trade
9. fade to black OH MY GODDDD (wishful thinking i know)
10. the abominations of those virtuous
11. empire
12. toy gun anthem
13. vehicle
14. eviction article
15. unspoken request
16. suckerpunch training
17. rookie
18. the force majeure

this set is INTENSE AS SHIT

but in general, songs that need more love:

across five years (even though it didn't fit in my ideal set, the song is amazing)
the power remains the same (saw it in '01 when you guys hadn't played it in so long and forgot how!! it ruled)
in hope (shouted for it to nathan in sayreville, didn't get it, but that's ok!)
voiceover (oh man)
the abominations of those virtuous (one of the most intense bsf songs ever)
unspoken request

also, the remix of still waiting for the punchline is ACE

man oh man oh man i love this band

I Against I? =)

TIMOTHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How about covering Rocket man, since it's a world known song and since it's not on the Before the Eulogy cd, but the back cover says it is... at least its not on mine! Good thing I have Suckerpunch Training or you'd all be in it deep!

Roger

Just a few favorites that I hope people have not lost sight of (in no particular order):

Suckerpunch training
The tyranny of what everyone knows
Cadence
Another Badge of Courage
Toy Gun Anthem
Resection

Of course anything off the newer albums is also clutch, though I/we have always been a fan of the oldies

Play that one song called "your moms face."

p.s. get tested is dead...

OH, about the cover. Perhaps another DK cover such as Too Drunk to Fuck, Religious Vomit, or Nazi Punks Off.

also,

you guys NEED to tour with a wilhelm scream

what a great pair right there

When retoric dies is one of the best songs you`ve writen....and Rocket man would be great!!!
See you in Cologne!!!!!!!

Interesting you say that Dan. I spoke with Chris from A Wilhelm Scream and he said they would love to play shows with BSF. I would also love this, too bad the soonest it could happen would be summer of next year. AWS is touring with lagwagon, less than jake, and then probably rise against. BSF, Rise Against, AWS? I'd be down for that.

And you're also right that Across fiver years is an amazing song that needs more love. Damnit, I need to see BSF again.

robert´s mom shoud get the manager job...she know´s what people want!

that's really cool about talking to a wilhelm scream

rise against is a good band, and would also draw...actually, at this point in time, all three bands can draw

i say throw crime in stereo in there for good measure...solid, young, and fun hardcore band that's on the way up big time

and hot water music if they ever play shows again, what an awesome five-some; don't even need openers for that one, because we saw what happens with certain openers! am i right!

:D ohhh and sorry about treating this like a bulleting board hahah

Ich hasse Ihre fricking Darm. Sie Weichlinge, müssen Sie aufstehen, für was Sie glauben.

...talking about putting all our favourite bands together on one tour: don't leave the bouncing souls behind!
my ideal package would be hot water music+bouncing souls+bsf. every band playing their version of the souls "true believers" at the end of their set. the hwm-version of true believers rocks even more than the original one, it would be fun to see what bsf can make out of it!!!

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Plague
On in Five!!!!!
High Wire Escape Artist
Knife Trade
Curtain Call
Release the Dogs
Handfull of Redemption
Bathory's Sainthood
Compassion
Last Year's Nest
Eviction Article
Twelve Step Hammer Program
The Force Majeure

And offcourse some new stuff!

there´s nothing better than ate at the beginning and rookie at the end! i´m quite excited to here some new songs!! it would be great to hear the force majeure, vehicle, pure, voiceover and pure!
ans it´s never too early to cover refused!!!! see you guys in cologne! timmy

RESECTION!!!!!!HAVENT HEARD IT LIVE IN FUCKING YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Any songs you guys play will be totally amazing of course. But Bathory's Sainthood, My Life in the Knife Trade, ATE, Handful of redemption, Unspoken request and then any new songs you guys wanna play.. as far as a cover .. Rocketman, Fade to Black, and Holiday in Cambodia all totally rock!

my fondest memory of boy sets fire is a show probably about 6 or 8 years ago at the fireside bowl. You guys played The Power Remains the Same and the place went nuts. I think the song ended with Nathan twisted up like a pretzel somewhere in the crowd, like 30 kids on stage and the rest of the band surrounding the drum set to keep people from falling on to it. it was incredible. sooo... that song should be a regular in my mind, and the list:

voiceover
the tyranny of what everybody knows
rookie
resection
new song
hometown report card
in hope
in the wilderness
two new stuff
fine art of falling
cadence
new song
pariah under glass
the power remains the same

Im thinking a Kelly Clarkson tribute night!

1. one subject notebook
2. parasite candy
3. feudal
4. three lefts
5. vehicle
6. turn the key
7. my life in the knife trade (demo version)
8. cover of all that was you (lean)

fuck it, just give the europeans a left hook, and then a right. do something crazy like open up with a cover.
i think you should def go with a more fun sided refused cover of "let's go crazy"

that should get the train rollin' pretty good ;-)

could you play handfull of redemption in berlin (13.12.)please?
would be great!

i would sit here and list my favorite BSF songs but i realized i would just be making a list of all the songs you guys have ever done. what help would that be. you guys should definitly play In Hope, The Abominations of Those Virtuous, and Vehicle.

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Rookie
Rise
My life in the trade of a knife
When the retoric dies

Rookie
Rise
My life in the trade of a knife
When the retoric dies

I still can't figure out if I like the song "After the Eulogy" or "Rise" better, they both rock so much.

start with after the eulogy, then followed by release the Dogs, pariah under glass, vehicle, the tyranny of what everyone knows, (compassion) as skull fragments on the wall, unspoken request, bathory's sainthood, last years nest, handful of redemption, voiceover, eviction article. and the last song should be(everybody knows it already, right!) ROOKIE

start with after the eulogy, then followed by release the Dogs, pariah under glass, vehicle, the tyranny of what everyone knows, (compassion) as skull fragments on the wall, unspoken request, bathory's sainthood, last years nest, handful of redemption, voiceover, eviction article. and the last song should be(everybody knows it already, right!) ROOKIE

I'm thinking maybe you shouldn't play any songs at all.

Obviously you can't please everybody, so why please anybody at all?

If I were you, I'd go out on stage, spend about 20 minutes tuning, eat a pizza, then leave.

Sure... and the audience pays for that... lol. One ticket is selled for 45 €!!!
But it doesn´t bother you because YOU are not able to see this show here... so stop talking about that...

01. after the eulogy
02. release the dogs
03. last year's nest
04. new song
05. cavity
06. across five years
07. new song
08. handful of redemption
09. in hope
10. high wire escape artist
11. the force majeure
12. my life in the knife trade
13. new song
14. foundations to burn
15. vehicle
16. rookie

in hope
vehicle
timothy
fashion as a weapon
white wedding dress
swingset
across 5 years
....

cover song is a no brainer
Backstreet Boys - I Want It That Way

A.T.E
voiceover
the tyrany of what everyone already knows
last years nest
new song
white weeding dress
swing set
new song
still waiting for the punchline
in hope
rookie
vehicle
release the dogs
highwire escape artist
new song
...then watever else
last -cover
tuning doesnt matter im sure you have at least 10 guitars

For real, where is the Kelly Klarkson in all of this?

stick to some of the older stuff, maybe 3 or 4 new songs mixed in
refused cover would make my year

Unspoken request please

a quick thankyou for coming over to europe. so many people i know love your performances, new and old.
you are always more than welcome in the uk.
sadly i cannot be there on the Dec 12th, work beckons. play a good one for me ;)

Dudes, what is your setlist going to be?

When Rhetoric Dies
When Rhetoric Dies
When Rhetoric Dies
When Rhetoric Dies
When Rhetoric Dies
When Rhetoric Dies
When Rhetoric Dies
When Rhetoric Dies

Gotta start with Release the Dogs, and end with Rookie...

Then somewhere in the middle:

Highwire Escape Artist
Toy Gun Anthem
12 Step Hammer Program
My Life in the Knife Trade
On in Five (would love to see that played live)
Vehicle

As long as all those are played it would be a kick ass set!!

What about The Clash for a band to cover?

I'm not reading all of the other comments because I'm lazy, but you should always open with After the Eulogy.

Also, The Power Remains the Same is always nice to see. As for a Refused cover, I think BSF could pull off "New Noise" pretty well. Plus, it's one of Refused more well-known songs, and that always helps when covering things.

Anyway, just my two cents. Also, fuck Europe, play the west coast more. :(

kelly clarkson since youve been gone is a really easy song to play and it would be a crowd pleaser. Across five years, loser of the year award are my favorites

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